Jerry Cobb read The Odyssey in ninth grade, the same year he lost his father—and it quietly shaped both the rest of his life and the wandering career that followed. Decades later, prompted by the new film, he tracked down the exact edition he read as a teenager, and found the book had come home to him the way Odysseus finally comes home. For RIA leaders, it's also a conversation about Grant, the loneliness of hard decisions, and the change-management framework Jerry uses to help next-generation firm leaders make it stick.

Dan Wanous got his start in wealth management at a New Year's Eve party--and spent the years since learning what it actually takes to stay composed under pressure. He joins me to talk about Brené Brown's Strong Ground, the idea of "pocket presence," and the books that shaped how he leads, hires, and reads.